*NOTE- nothing in this thread is confirmed or denied by Treyarch, these are theories and Ideas that I have formulated as a prediction for a possible Map Pack 4*
Ok if you have all seen the Inside Xbox Live video with the Tour of Treyarch on the XBL Dashboard there are CLUES.
I have used the code sheet,
and deciphered what it says on the walls..
* Edward Is Alive * Treyarch * To The Community The Fans and Our Families Thank you *heart* We Shall Return
They say they shall return.... that must mean a Map Pack 4.
Watch the video for yourself and tell me what you think.
Also about the dates to map pack 4 release.. I think the 24th is wrong,
Der Riese Calendar
Those circled dates on the calendar ARE NOT involving map pack 4, they tell refer to the moon cycles.
Notice the numbers on the bottom, and their pictures of the moon (besides the 2nd). The 24th was a full.... The full moon, eclipse, etc is very similar to the one found on Der Riese
I believe they needed the moon to help with the experiments. Those dates are when they conducted major aspects of their experiments, and they based them off the cycle of the moon. (side note: the moon doesn't move and the clock is "broken" are they stuck in time?)
Some people think the map will be in Area 51, it is my opinion that it will not, and here is why I think that.
First of all Area 51 is located in USA. Why would they have all the zombie maps in Europe/Asia and then have on in America... It doesn't work like that. It is my strong opinion they will keep the maps in Europe
I understand that there is a radio transmission on Der Riese that mentions the Nevada base, however the context is not meant to say that they will be traveling there. It simply says that the US has the element and are testing it. If like anything else in history the countries are competing. They are saying that the US has a large amount, and they (Germans) need to find their own source to try and keep up with the experiments.
Here is the section of the transmission that involves the Nevada base
Quote :
Our operatives in America, have informed that the U.S have a large supply of the element at the Nevada base. So time is of the essence if we are to stay ahead of them. This cannot be done if you cut the budget, nor can it be done if you insist on pressuring us into action before we are ready. I am available for discussion on the matter, but in the meantime I will continue with the work here and try to win this damned war!
You see they are trying to compete, they are not looking to go to Area 51 at all. If anything they went to Shi No Numa to score more element 115 from the meteor. Someone might say that Shi No Numa was on Japan? There is no PROOF or EVIDENCE to prove that to be true, all roads lead to the fact that it is Tunguska. Tunguska is NOT located on Japan it is inland. Like I said before it even says Tunguska on a wall in Shi No Numa,
Also if they make a map pack 4 with more than one zombie map, they will most likely be in Europe. You can find on each teleport a board with the words GER, FRA, and ENG. These will be the locations of the new zombie maps.
GER (Germany) > FRA (France) > ENG (England) >
Around Der Riese there are many maps on the boards, they appear to all be European. These are just a few of the reasons why a new map would not be on Area 51, it just doesn't make sense that it would. Sure it sounds cool, but I think that Dempsey could very well be involved with Area 51 being from the US, but it will not be a map location
Reasons why a map would involve France can be found in the same radio transmission that mention the Nevada base.
Quote :
we need to increase the frequency and size of the experiment. To this end, I suggest we find not only a regular supply of 115, but that we also find a larger conduit to channel the energy.
So yes they are looking for more 115, but not from Area 51, there is a war going on, and the last time I checked Germany and America were not allies.
Also you can find a Map of France on a Der Riese wall.
The part in the transmission where it talks about a large conduit to channel the energy leads me to believe that the Eiffel Tower could be used for this. It can be found on a Der Riese board as well.
These are some pictures from the boards on Der Riese. They depict locations with zombies. However I don't seem to see any pictures that would resemble an Area 51 setting.
So they will most definitely have a map in France, also because of the wooden board that said FRA. Why would they have a map on Area 51 and not France? Doesn't make sense. In pictures you can plainly see the Eiffle Tower with zombies present.
These images are a clue for a next map, just like they added the small piece of paper on Shi No Numa that said Der Riese,
Also There is a date found on Verruckt, and Der Riese Hitler was in France
So we found the numbers 1942 11 3. If you put this as a date, you will find that Hitler made a statement on that day,
Quote :
"Your enemy, despite his superiority, must also be at the end of his strength. It would not be the first time in history that a strong will has triumphed over the big battalions. As to your troops, you can show them no other road than that to victory or death."
Hitler was basically signing the death warrant for his entire military force.
So these are my theories and predictions for a possible Map Pack 4, believe what you wish, however in my opinion I have brought up some good points.
We will have to wait and see if Treyarch announces anything.
Last edited by carbonfibah on Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:52 pm; edited 1 time in total
OH MY GOD that's brilliant work u made. i kinda thought it would be in area 51 but now that i read this, i think i agree with you. It HAS to be in france. hopefully you can do something awesome with the Eiffel tower.
Very, very intriguing and convincing theory. But the only thing that is keeping me from believing this, is the radio transmission in Shi No Numa giving coordinates to Area 51. It seems random that they'd be thrown in there for nothing.
Good job once again Carbon. It is very convincing that the next map might be in France because there is like 4 pictures with the Eiffel tower in them and zombies near it.
Very, very intriguing and convincing theory. But the only thing that is keeping me from believing this, is the radio transmission in Shi No Numa giving coordinates to Area 51. It seems random that they'd be thrown in there for nothing.
those are NOT coordinates for area 51, this has already been proven
Very, very intriguing and convincing theory. But the only thing that is keeping me from believing this, is the radio transmission in Shi No Numa giving coordinates to Area 51. It seems random that they'd be thrown in there for nothing.
those are NOT coordinates for area 51, this has already been proven
Very, very intriguing and convincing theory. But the only thing that is keeping me from believing this, is the radio transmission in Shi No Numa giving coordinates to Area 51. It seems random that they'd be thrown in there for nothing.
those are NOT coordinates for area 51, this has already been proven
Link? If possible?
ya let me find it, its buried in this forum somewhere lol
great. absolutley great. however, I cant see a map pack with more than one map I'd rather have everyone playing one new map, than 2/3 new ones. but great. great.
Nice! Very well researched and presented! I don't think shi no numa is in tunguska though. The tunguska event occured very close to the artic circle and shi no numa is clearly not that far north.
Nice! Very well researched and presented! I don't think shi no numa is in tunguska though. The tunguska event occured very close to the artic circle and shi no numa is clearly not that far north.
As you can see Tunguksa, now modern day, Krasnoyarsk Krai is very large, it doesn't mean that it was up on the arctic circle.
I agree with everything but the part about Shi No Numa been in Tunguska. Good work Carbon. I was hoping that the next map WOULDN'T be in Area 51 so I'm glad that there is a huge possibility it could be in France!
OK, that Shi No Numa is located in Tunguska makes a little sense... a little.
The area around the epicenter of the Tunguska event is in fact a swamp : Sothern Swamp
But : The Event took place in 1908 , and in SNN it's somewhat in the 1940s. So why does the Asteroid just lies there ? Did they dig it out ? No way, because it exploded in midair, causing this great devastation . They never found any pieces of the meteoroid . And if this map is in Tunguska... why are there Japanese Zombies instead of Russian ones ??
On the other hand... guess what the coordinated for Tunguska are?
Good find Cpt.Rutger, I still think it's in Japan though. Apart from the fact that the zombies are Japanese even the trees and plants look like they're from there as well.
Ok, maybe the area in tunguska is a bit soggy, but not like in shi no numa where there appears to be waist deep standing water year round. Also, in the fish hut you can hear monkeys. As far as I know there are no monkeys in Siberia. I could be wrong though! How about this....
The nazis want the 115 from the tunguska event. They would have to cross enemy lines to get to it. However, as there was no eastern russian front, the Japanese could just walk right in. So maybe the germans asked their good friends the japanese to escort richtofen (and/or others?) to retrieve whatever they could and bring it back to friendly (japanese) territory for further study.
Don't take it so literally its a video game, so there are some deep spots of water, that doesn't prove anything. Also there monkeys all over Asia, some that even live in snow. You are looking WAY to deep into this, is it so hard for you to accept that SNN is at Tunguska?
REGARDLESS this thread is about MaP Pack 4, feel free to discuss this in another thread
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You guys are too far into this. its a video game, some things dont have to exactly accurate. carbon has provided almost solid evidence of an mp4 location, and I think he knows there will be one... but on topic, great post carbon, I cant beilieve this.
I never noticed the zombie in front of the eiffel tower. never noticed that ever before.
One good point my wife brought up minutes ago why there could be Japanes (Imperial) zombies could be involved with the German experiments :
Japan was part of the Axis powers in WWII and part of the military alliance of Germany and Italy. So, maybe Japan dicided they could use some Zombies too, because they were losing the war against the USA as well as the Germans were. So, why not deliviring some fresh corpses to the Germans to continue with the experiments near Tunguska.
Question is : Why did the Russians never knew about it or tried to prevent those experiments ?
Ahhhhh well, I think all this information you've put together really adds up. I'm curious to see where abouts they put the map in France whether the Eiffel Tower would be involved at all. I have visions of zombies clibming up it but it seems slightly unlikely unless they want to bend history a tad.
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